tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post5572131141770539444..comments2024-01-31T16:14:54.816-08:00Comments on The Prisoner's Wife: Post-Racial Promised Landthe prisoner's wifehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11160398635149797677noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-40649335687033647332009-07-28T13:20:26.016-07:002009-07-28T13:20:26.016-07:00And thank you, PW, for having my back on this. You...And thank you, PW, for having my back on this. You know how I feel about your writing—I think it's positively stunning and thoughtful and smart. Much like you.<br /><br />It was good meeting you at BlogHer sis—it took me a minute to figure it out, but the moment it clicked, it was on. ; }MBB Founder and Editor Denene Millnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17413819770146273768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-88504485957925281402009-07-28T13:13:07.944-07:002009-07-28T13:13:07.944-07:00I feel like I need to make something clear, here: ...I feel like I need to make something clear, here: I agree with Renee that we ALL need to venture out of our comfort zone, and that's what I do. I do not, and have never, visited only blogs of WOC. There are lots of great writers out there who speak to me, regardless of color/race/sex/sexual orientation—anymommy, preston of me and the blue skies, black hockey jesus at the wind in my vagina, a thorn among roses, dooce... And I make a point of not only visiting but becoming a member at plenty of mom sites that proudly proclaim they're written for moms. <br /><br />My problem, as I stated at the BlogHer panel that Renee participated in and later on the Pepsico/BlogTalkRadio show interview, is that sites that proclaim to be for ALL moms RARELY, if ever, do very simple things to acknowledge that more than just white moms are reading and participating with them. Where are the pictures of black moms breastfeeding their kids? Where are the pictures of Latina moms playing with their children in the park? How about an Asian mom reading with her baby? When they're looking to review products, does it ever occur to them that I can't use the shampoos they're recommending? Or that it might be nice to feature a lipstick and a blush that isn't exclusive to white skin? Every once in a while? <br /><br />Their blogs may not say "white" baby or "white" moms, but everything else about it screams such. <br /><br />Still, I've seen plenty of moms of color participating on those sites (which shall remain nameless, but if the shoe fits, I hope they're paying attention) and breaking their necks to become a part of those communities, only to get the cold shoulder from the sites and the other women who participate on them. In other words, there is no RECIPROCATION. If I can get outside of MY lane and come to your 'hood, why on earth would you be too "intimidated" to come to mine? What's going to happen if they stop by our blogs? Are they expecting to get cursed out? Cyberslapped? What? <br /><br />And WHY is it that when it comes to fostering diversity, we're the ones who ALWAYS have to take up the mantle, anyway? Again, my argument was that WE go to their sites, but they never seem to come to ours. <br /><br />I named my blog MyBROWNBaby because A) that's what my kids are, and B) I wanted to create a space for MOC looking to participate in the national debate on motherhood. The only time we get invited to participate is when someone's looking for black folk to break down our pathologies—teen pregnancy, poverty, poor education, etc. But there's so much more to us—so much more. And we deserve a space where we can share and commiserate and bitch and advise and just, well, be. <br /><br />But MyBrownBaby also seeks to teach—you know what I'm saying? I'm not talking preach to the choir. I'm talking about helping others who aren't familiar with us to see that we're not boogie(wo)men—that we diaper our babies, and breastfeed them, and want them to go to fine schools, and experience joy and pain and death, and do what we can to be the best moms we can be. A lot of who we are overlaps with who they are, but there are some instances where the issues will have a different tint to them. I would think that at a time when our country's first lady is Michelle Obama, you might want to get your hands on as much info as you can.<br /><br />But that's just me.<br /><br />Bottom line: I want the purveyors of these mainstream mommy blogs/websites to over and LEARN something. Don't be skerd.<br /><br />Is that so tall an order?MBB Founder and Editor Denene Millnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17413819770146273768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-39850210100428432552009-07-28T09:16:36.138-07:002009-07-28T09:16:36.138-07:00Juls: thanks for stopping by & sharing your th...Juls: thanks for stopping by & sharing your thoughts. you made perfect sense. i agree, it will take us small measured steps to get where we want to be. <br /><br />Renee: i think you've got something there. before the conf i was sort of stuck in my blog lane. i read who i read. after BlogHer i'm starting to read outside of my own little box. i think, as you said, we all get some comfortable within our own thing that we don't venture out. i'm going to start venturing out!the prisoner's wifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160398635149797677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-41930584974296982192009-07-28T07:25:44.612-07:002009-07-28T07:25:44.612-07:00The "intimidation" thing is just weird t...The "intimidation" thing is just weird to me. As I noted on Denene's post, I think that people read titles of blogs and just think "that is not for me" without staying around to read the content. <br /><br />I think my experience in the blogosphere has been a little different because initially most of the blogs I read were either by withe authors or written by women of color with a diverse audience. <br /><br />I explored the blogs of those commenting and ended up initially having a readership that was largely white. <br /><br />As I discovered more blogs written by women of color my audience expanded. I was able to find more and more people of color as I clicked on links. <br /><br />Sometimes I think that people don't get out of their comfort zone (or neighborhood) because it takes time and effort. <br /><br />However, I know that we all have interesting things to share and think that only by being open and receptive to others can we truly celebrate our diversity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634096295956313230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-31627280645737136232009-07-27T23:17:32.977-07:002009-07-27T23:17:32.977-07:00that should say "blog world" not just bl...that should say "blog world" not just blog<br />___________<br />And now that I've posted it, I'm not sure my comment makes a lot of sense ...but I'm crazee like that..Crazee Julshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13548983833692955117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-16141616955923768122009-07-27T23:14:37.287-07:002009-07-27T23:14:37.287-07:00...wow, I really enjoyed reading that. Great insi......wow, I really enjoyed reading that. Great insight, and I think it's unfortunate that the blog does seem segregated. Diversity, in my opinion, should be embraced and respected. Who wants to read more about someone who is JUST like you...not me, for sure. I think it's a privilege to read a wide range of blogs, that make each person unique, regardless of color. (hope this makes sense...because sometimes I have a hard time conveying what I'm trying to say :) My point is, I agree with you, and it saddens me...baby steps to get to post-racial America I think.... but it's my prayer, that we will get there!Crazee Julshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13548983833692955117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-54819148246381761382009-07-27T12:49:24.169-07:002009-07-27T12:49:24.169-07:00This is very interesting. When I started blogging...This is very interesting. When I started blogging and decided that I wanted to have a header made I had to think of what I wanted to display. I wanted an image that represented me but did not exclude anyone. Do I pic an image of a white women because that will include us all (black women do tend to gravitate towards these site as well), by putting up an image of a white women I run the risk of being false or unreal to my true self by black women. Or do I chose an image of a black woman an run the risk of not reaching out to women other than WOC. I ended up choosing an image of a black woman because I think she looked quite like me (about 60 lbs lighter and with longer hair). I never thought the web to be a place where segration would be but that could be my little naive self hoping and wishing race is not the issue.<br /><br />I wonder what we WOC go through so differently from other's that we are either intimidating, or not worth the pr. Don't a lot of people use huggies, breastfeed, use formula, deal with separation anxiety, ect. What could really be that different besides our skin.Felicia - I complete Mehttp://www.icompletemeblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-87074165121948835622009-07-27T12:24:42.134-07:002009-07-27T12:24:42.134-07:00I think it's funny that companies complain tha...I think it's funny that companies complain that they don't know or understand us. Are the top executives white? Are they the ones traveling around the world and getting cultural experience? Are they then passing on their charge to lower level managerial positions who are also white and not quite enlightened about culture who then give us stereotypical commercials? <br /><br />I don't have answers. I still have questions. And I will continue to ask them. <br /><br />Great post. Even if you did use the words (gag) "post-racial" (gag). <br />;-)<br /><br />xoxoMochahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07035442586293974560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-56395104529886559732009-07-27T08:38:09.016-07:002009-07-27T08:38:09.016-07:00Denise: i'm not exactly sure where it came fro...Denise: i'm not exactly sure where it came from either, but i know Denene (mybrownbaby) was upset by it. it made us all pause for a second & reflect on what could possibly be intimidating by a site for MOC. <br /><br />Vee: thanks for contributing. i still see lots of, segregation on the web. most popular black sites are viewed mostly by black folks & a lot of the popular parenting sites tend to cater to mostly white moms. with pictures of white women & babies. i think it's all about perception. if nothing else, this panel opened up the conversation for ALL sites (and i have to think of my own) should include images/posts/ideas that are inclusive.the prisoner's wifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160398635149797677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-24782347515151986362009-07-27T08:06:58.196-07:002009-07-27T08:06:58.196-07:00I don't think the web is segregated. While you...I don't think the web is segregated. While you will hear many racially insensitive and biased views and comments throughout the web it is not segregated.Vee (Scratch)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06565744565399935705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-30512994677891503862009-07-27T05:15:40.267-07:002009-07-27T05:15:40.267-07:00I saw the intimidated tweet but I can't find w...I saw the intimidated tweet but I can't find where that came from. Please help! If you hear more about those types of discussions or blog posts, please share them so that we can all discuss and learn.Denisehttp://flamingohouse.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-35566706908693754082009-07-26T19:26:49.182-07:002009-07-26T19:26:49.182-07:00mdot: that's the thing. i'm not sure WHY p...mdot: that's the thing. i'm not sure WHY people are intimidated by moms of color. i'm thinking that some people (white) feel like they can't relate because they're black. but why? beyond me. makes me think the 'net is hella segregated. what you think?<br /><br />Ananda: would love to hear what you thought, though. how did you feel as one of a handful of brown bloggers @ BlogHer? did they have enough sessions that SPOKE to you?the prisoner's wifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11160398635149797677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-35344070839586328832009-07-26T16:06:23.122-07:002009-07-26T16:06:23.122-07:00Thanks PW for the blog post. You captured what I w...Thanks PW for the blog post. You captured what I was feeling in many ways.Anandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856480920859265203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21175262.post-72463823377349686342009-07-25T19:18:20.792-07:002009-07-25T19:18:20.792-07:00I like it.
Its critical and inclusive and insight...I like it.<br /><br />Its critical and inclusive and insightful.<br /><br />What I want to hear more about is the alleged intimidating talk.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.com